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Maaik
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« on: Jul 07, 2008, 11:13:58 AM »

Keep punchin' tiger!
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 07, 2008, 11:36:34 AM »

Okay then!

I saw Hancock last night.  It was all right.  Nothing too great, but okay.  Jason Bateman played Jason Bateman.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 07, 2008, 06:23:50 PM »

The Secret of Roan Inninsh, to continue my John Sayles love. Moments where I felt the editing was a bit clumsy? But all the storytelling bits were fucking gold, and the little girl in it was great.

Going to my first Film 101 lecture in about half an hour. yeah!
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 07, 2008, 06:54:56 PM »

We watched Driller Killer today. Definitely above and apart from most of the other slasher flicks we've watched.
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 07, 2008, 10:12:17 PM »

alright people, a need someone to make a decision for me.  I have two options, Wanted or Hancock.  Hancock i'm kinda interested in but hear it's shit.  Wanted i have very little interest in but hear that it's alright.  Choose for me!
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 07, 2008, 10:23:10 PM »

I hear Wanted is absolute garbage, and it looks it. Hancock was pretty alright, actually.
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Greg Nog
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 07, 2008, 10:43:32 PM »

Based solely on what I know of the movie version of Wanted and the ways it differs from the comic version, I am willing to assume it's crap.  But I haven't seen it myself.

Hancock was no great shakes, but it was kinda fun to watch The Fresh Prince drink for an hour or so and then fly around.  I didn't dislike it.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 08, 2008, 11:35:04 AM »

We watched Driller Killer today. Definitely above and apart from most of the other slasher flicks we've watched.

Yes, that movie is really strange and has a lot of awesome stuff going on in it. Abel Ferrara went on to do "The Bad Lieutenant", if you've heard of that. Harvey Keitel losing his fucking mind for two hours. It's pretty weird too.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 08, 2008, 11:36:35 AM »

Ferrara's performance is just totally hilarious. So fucking sarcastic and snide.
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 08, 2008, 11:39:08 AM »

Much as I hated reading Dhalgren, I'm still quite fascinated by Samuel Delany himself.  I'd love to go see the biopic The Polymath, but it doesn't seem to be playing anywhere around here, and I don't want to go all the way to Philly just to see it there on July 18th.  Dang.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 08, 2008, 12:45:10 PM »

whoa, that Delany bio looks fascinating--50,000 sex partners?!?! Somewhere Wilt Chamberlain is seething with jeaousy.

Ferrara's performance is just totally hilarious. So fucking sarcastic and snide.

Did the prof play any of his DVD commentary track? It's insane--I swear he starts jerking off during the shower scene.

and hey Thermo, are you working you way through the Shriek Show box set? I just came across that at Best Buy the other day, and I was little bummed--and confused--that the box itself never actually mentions Walker by name, even though it's 4 of his films.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 08, 2008, 05:05:56 PM »

and hey Thermo, are you working you way through the Shriek Show box set? I just came across that at Best Buy the other day, and I was little bummed--and confused--that the box itself never actually mentions Walker by name, even though it's 4 of his films.

Yep!  Saved House of Whipcord for last, so hopefully I'll be watching it tonight with a beer or two in hand. The box is kinda weird...it just says British Horror with no real mention of Walker, but the top of each individual DVD is labeled "The Pete Walker Collection".  But the price was right (I think I paid $15) and he's got commentary on each disc.  Best Buy is sort of a treasure trove of these cheap horror sets.  Their (admittedly frills-free) MGM Midnite Movies box sets are taking up a couple shelves in my DVD cabinet and amid the numerous stinkers there are some serious gems scattered about (the excellent Witchfinder General is probably my fave example of this, which came in one of the boxes along with Mephisto Waltz, another underrated one).
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 08, 2008, 05:43:06 PM »

Ferrara's performance is just totally hilarious. So fucking sarcastic and snide.

Did the prof play any of his DVD commentary track? It's insane--I swear he starts jerking off during the shower scene.

oh. my. god. maybe this makes me a nutcase (i'm totally a nutcase) but i had a total "oh, this i GOTTA see" reaction to that statement and have now bumped this dvd up to #2 on my netflix queue.

i saw that movie once when i was living with rob deicide. that house had horror movies playing pretty much 24-7 for something like 3 years; much of my horror movie knowledge comes from that era. anyway, i walked into the house one night right in the middle of "driller killer" and was totally sucked in by how fucked up and strange it was, but i've never seen it all the way through. so now i want to go back and watch it over again, because i don't remember what pollo's talking about with reference to ferrara's performance at all. and uh, i think i have to watch that commentary track.

by the way, my favorite scene in the whole movie comes during the random between-scene shots of new york city street life, where a drunk bum sitting in a doorway suddenly vomits on himself. that blew my mind when i saw it.

oh, and whit/thermo, what are these movies you're discussing? old hammer horror stuff? enlighten me, cuz it sounds cool!
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 08, 2008, 05:55:10 PM »

HEY PAMMY

PAMMY YOU WUNNA PIECE WIT DA PEPPAS ON IT

Yeah, man, that film is seriously one fucked up (but fun! very fun!) way to spend 90 minutes. The prof said the commentary track was off the chain and that Ferrara was obviously drunk through most of it.
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 08, 2008, 07:37:48 PM »

oh, and whit/thermo, what are these movies you're discussing? old hammer horror stuff? enlighten me, cuz it sounds cool!

Unfortunately the late Hammer stuff and Pete Walker's work is about the breadth of my 1970s British suspense/horror knowledge, so Whit would definitely be the authority on this.  Also, really, any 70s horror recommendations would be appreciated as I'm growing increasingly curious about the huge cultural surge/legitimization of horror during the 70s; it proliferated in mainstream cinema for the first time with stuff like Excorcist and The Omen, it kept proliferating in the underground/genre theater circuit, it filtered into comic books both mainstream (Tomb of Dracula) and not-so-much (Vampirella), it seeped into television (Kolchak)..even fucking Count Chocula owes his birth to the 70s horror surge.  And all of this stuff is so, so awesome (esp. Count Chocula).

And I'd really like recommendations for any gems that may exist within the more obscure 70s AIP stuff that I've probably missed, or anything in the Ted Mikels cheap 'n' cheesy vein, or any good British or Italian stuff outside of Hammer & Argento.
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« Reply #15 on: Jul 08, 2008, 08:14:17 PM »

Oh, OK, yeah, I love 70s era horror. I guess none of my suggestions would be all that new to you, but I'll throw some stuff out there anyway. First off, the early works of David Cronenberg are worth seeing, such as "Shivers" or "Rabid" or "The Brood" (that head-exploding clip that's all over the internet as an animated gif is from "The Brood"). And of course, "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and, with some reservations, "Last House On The Left" (I've said this before, but the comic-relief parts are out of place and ruin the movie's momentum). A lot of people are really into "I Spit On Your Grave", but I'm not. I would recommend "I Drink Your Blood" very highly, though. From Italy, Fulci has his moments, but some of his stuff is pretty crappy. I'd recommend "Zombie" but would say to stay away from "The Beyond", for example. I'm a bigger fan of Mario Bava, though his stuff starts in the early 60s and he died in the early 80s, so he's from a slightly earlier era. I really dug "Twitch of the Death Nerve", but like, G.C.R. hated it, so your mileage may vary. I hear great stuff about "Shock" but haven't seen it.

I feel like I should be able to come up with more, but I'm drawing a blank right now. I'm sure Whit has a lot more to recommend.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 08, 2008, 08:29:19 PM »

I Spit On Your Grave and I Drink Your Blood have constituted glaring omissions for awhile now re: seminal 70s cult stuff I need to see, so I should rectify this pretty immediately.

I've got mad love for The Brood...found a $5 used copy last month at MovieStop.  I've liked the Fulci I've seen (Zombie and Lizard) ...and it's that sort of "this movie could only have been made in that decade" 1970s temporal authenticity I'm really gunning for.  And as I need to dig into Bava as well, please feel free to go nuts listing any giallo-y fare you think I need to check out ASAP. 
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 08, 2008, 09:29:56 PM »

I'm mostly lurking because I'm busy, but I can't help but chime in with support for I Drink Your Blood. The dude who directed it, David Durston, had this bizarre career that included Stigma, the Philip Michael Thomas syphilis thriller, and then some now-lost gay porn in 3-D. I got to see a theatrical screening for the DVD release several years ago with him and a good chunk of the cast, which was a real delight.

For Fulci, Don't Torture a Duckling is closest to Lizard; even though he's best known for his gorefests, I think this more atmospheric early-70s stuff was his best.

One giallo director worth checking out is Sergio Martino, who soiled his reputation with some postapocalyptic 80s cheese but had an incredible early-70s run with The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh, Case of the Scorpion's Tale (less amazing), All the Colors of the Dark, and Your Vice is a Locked Room and Only I have the Key. The three best ones all feature Edwige Fenech, which is probably not coincidental to their being the best.

Whipcord was the first Walker film I saw, on public-access TV in rural Alaska. Even edited, its sordid vibe got under my skin (of course, I was in about 6th grade, so probably fairly susceptible). I have the DVD but haven't seen it in ages. Other than time/place contingencies, I wouldn't really compare him to hammer; their films always had--or at least strove for--a certain opulence, while his were more slimy (and political, in their attacks on bourgeois moralism). Walker also dabbled in sexploitation--I really like his 1970 film Cool It, Carol, which begins in a mildly rousing manner but turns grim and downbeat (I saw it as a double feature with Radley Metzger's Camille 2000 and seemed virtually alone in finding it vastly superior). Anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 08, 2008, 09:35:55 PM »

on a vastly different note, has anyone seen Andre Techine's The Witnesses (Les Temoins)? I watched it last week and still can't quite form an opinion; parts are tremendous (Sami Bouajila, with whom I wasn't familiar, was amazing, and I always love Emmanuelle Beart), but then parts are really hamfisted--all sorts of clumsy foreshadowing, and a pretty simplistic characterization of the gay characters. And was AIDS really so unknown in France in 1984? The chronology seems off to me, but I guess I'm insufficiently informed to be sure.
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 08, 2008, 09:40:15 PM »

Am I the only one who sometimes wonders if adf is pulling a Dingbats on us with these movie reviews?
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 08, 2008, 10:00:39 PM »

Hancock was no great shakes, but it was kinda fun to watch The Fresh Prince drink for an hour or so and then fly around.  I didn't dislike it.

I agree completely
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 08, 2008, 10:34:43 PM »

dumbfish, you probably just aren't aware quite how much Dario Argento stole from the proto-giallo Byrd with the Crystal Plumage, in which the young women of Roger McGuinn's ashram keep dying violent and mysterious deaths; Gram Parsons makes a red-herring cameo, but it turns out--spoiler, sorry--that McGuinn is reenacting murders Bob Dylan already committed (thank god the U.S. version cut the David Crosby three-way sex scene, though Dario later redid this scene with Asia when she was nine).
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 08, 2008, 10:38:49 PM »

also I regret using "slimy" to describe Pete Walker's films. "Drab," that's what I was looking for--a very different effect from hammer, I think, and less escapist.
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 08, 2008, 11:42:23 PM »

Er, I feel odd coming in on this now, but I had great fun seeing Mamma Mia. Though for once I would like to see a mainstream movie where an independent woman isn't lying to herself about wanting to be single and just stays so. But it was fun anyhoo.
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 08, 2008, 11:53:27 PM »

i'm lookin at a pretty 'citin schedule. hellboy and batman! man, now all they gotta do is combine em in a double feature, and serve pigs in a blanket (that shit they served in school which were half grilled cheeses and half hot dogs).
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