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jebreject
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« on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:17:14 PM »

So! We are looking into buying a new tv. What we have now is a big heavy CRT that's at least a decade old that was inherited from my mom when she moved in with her boyfriend and I moved to Milwaukee. It works, it's fine, but we've been considering upgrading for a little while now. Thing is, I have never purchased a tv before. I have no clue what I should be looking for or how to find good deals. Given the size of our living room and the distance from the couch to the tv, I'd say we probably want something around 40", give or take, and ideally I'd like one with internet applications, but that's not strictly necessary, since I imagine at some point I'll be replacing my Xbox or buying a Boxee or something like that.
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jebreject
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:21:46 PM »

Is it safe/smart to buy online? Will we get better prices online, or if we go to an actual brick 'n mortar store? I'd rather avoid the Big Box stores, and my landlord says his buddy works at a place in the suburbs and could probably get us a deal, but that doesn't sound 100%.

Also: what are good brands? Best dollar-to-awesomeness ratio? LCD vs. LED vs. Plasma? Brands to definitely avoid? Does the sound suck on all HDTVs or just almost all of them?
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:24:39 PM »

Dude, look at Woot today! There's a 42" TV on there for a pretty good price, though it's some sort of off-brand. If not that, I'd recommend going on craigslist and finding the largest Sony Bravia in your price range. I've known many people with various Bravia models and have heard no complaints. We have a 32" Bravia & it's great. I'd forego the bells & whistles that are going to drive up the price, buy something very solid & reliable, then spend the difference on a small media server computer to complement it.
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jebreject
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:32:55 PM »

I saw that TV on Woot. That's what got us really thinking about this. I'll check Craigslist, though I am in general incredibly skeeved out by that place and don't like the idea of buying things from people on it.
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jebreject
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:34:01 PM »

All the Bravias on Craigslist are WAY out of our price range.
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 09, 2011, 04:42:06 PM »

Huh. I buy and sell stuff on craigslist all the time, and have never gotten burned. We bought our 32" Bravia from someone on NYC craigslist for $350.

What are you looking to spend?
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jebreject
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 09, 2011, 05:10:52 PM »

500, maybe 6.

All the Bravias I saw were 700-1000, though I only skimmed one page.

I'm actually thinking we might go for this Woot deal and pick up an Apple TV or something similar.
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 09, 2011, 05:38:31 PM »

I'd really strongly advise against an Apple TV, unless you relish lots of DRM and limited functionality. That hundo would be better spent on a little HTPC. I've got an Acer Aspire Revo that I snatched on eBay for like $150, and it's media server & torrent box in one.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 09, 2011, 06:03:44 PM »

I bought my tv on Amazon. They dropped it taking it off the plane in Raleigh but quickly sent another one. It came with "White Glove Service" where the freight dude brought it into my house and assembled the pedastal and shit while I watched. I told him I could do all that myself but he insisted it was a mandatory part of his company's White Glove contract with Amazon. After he had the TV up on the stand and powered on, he hauled the trash off and bid me a kind farewell. He did all but give me a handjob with those White Gloves, and I'm sure he would've had I asked. It was a sexy time in my life.

Also whatever you do, don't buy a Roku box. They're slow and have a dumb menu layout.
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jebreject
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 09, 2011, 10:04:38 PM »

It's much more expensive, and got some bad reviews when it first dropped, but I think I'm going with the Boxee Box, which seems ideal. The hardware is solid, and now that they've put out a few versions of the firmware it's less buggy. And it'll play pretty much fucking anything.

After much deliberation, we ended up buying that tv on Woot. Hope that wasn't a bad decision.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 09, 2011, 10:13:07 PM »

What's the advantage of a Boxee Box over a full-featured HTPC at around the same price? Just curious; I don't know much about those little dedicated media server boxes. If you've got a media server PC, you can always install some media center UI like XBMC or even Boxee.
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milly balgeary
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 09, 2011, 11:35:16 PM »

I say Jeb, you send that TV back to woot, and just get a VCR.
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 09, 2011, 11:44:00 PM »

What's the advantage of a Boxee Box over a full-featured HTPC at around the same price? Just curious; I don't know much about those little dedicated media server boxes. If you've got a media server PC, you can always install some media center UI like XBMC or even Boxee.

you are the worst of all advisors of stuff like this. why would he buy a used tv off craigslist? that's like a guy asking around about finding a girlfriend and somebody saying, "the best girls hang out down at nickelback concerts". i mean, you lucked out, but mostly, people are trying to FUCK you by selling you their used TV. my parents are totally honest people, republicans, etc, they tithe the church like crazy, and even THEY cheated the fuck outta someone by selling some shit used lcd with antiquated specs. my parents, old as fuck, retired ass republican fox news watching parents, FUCKED some lady by selling her that TV. they went at her like it was bukake party, cum spilling outta ceiling lights, shit on the camera lens, old doodads on the floor of mysterious origin, blood and entrails on the walls, some mexican in a hat dancing with fireworks with his dick hanging out of his long johns. you crazy mother! "you need a new washer? try the hospital laundry! they wash a shit ton of bloody garments all the time, but damn, if you ain't gonna get a deal!"
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 09, 2011, 11:45:18 PM »

"You looking for a horse?"
Try the glue factory! They got healthy foals there. We got one ride it all over place."
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milly balgeary
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 09, 2011, 11:59:29 PM »

that is a silo tv. here is what the silo corp main page about us says:
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We are a consumer electronics distributor based out of California, United States. With our efforts directed towards providing the most reliable and high quality consumer electronic products at the most competitive prices to the world of digital technology; our company seeks to strengthen market share. Our Team of specialist has been serving excellence for more than 5 years.

Since 2004, our excellent support team serves the consumers with the best customer service experience possible. We take pride in exceeding our customers' expectations by providing quality service. One of our main goals is to help our customers as much as possible. We may be a small company but we unquestionably understand our customers' needs.

We have built our reputation by providing excellent product quality, reliability and value pricing. Our success is based on our relentless effort of providing our customers with the newest technologies and product designs in innovative product packaging.

Our network of distribution centers throughout the United States allows us to react with real-time speed to our customers' changing needs. These facilities are strategically located to minimize freight costs for both customers and suppliers that work with us. Real-time data communications and state-of-the-art information systems make it easy to access up-to-the-minute status on every order.

Our dedication and promise to deliver excellence in technology performance and quality service continues as a result of our valued customer.

some of that seems like it's "off" like it's engrish. my guess is this is a rebranded chinese tv. don't expect any kind of real warranty except through woot if they offer one. a lot of these things don't have "parts". they will not have a technician come out and check it out if shit's fucked up. on the other hand, expect a life time of about 5-6 years or more (variable) which is more than worth the price.
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jebreject
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« Reply #15 on: Jul 10, 2011, 12:48:58 AM »

How long do LCD TVs usually last?

Miles - I don't have a dedicated media server. I guess I'll look in to buying HTPCs. I don't really know shit about shit either.
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milly balgeary
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 10, 2011, 01:18:28 AM »

If your laptop or whatever, has hdmi, just plug that into it. LCD's don't have a definitive lifespan. I've got an lcd from 5 years ago in my bedroom.  it's an off brand, olevia, though at one point it had some market share as a cheap alternative and sold through target, and so on. chinese rebranded usually show up around christmas time black friday sales and like home depot carries 10 as high loss items to get people into the store! my sister has one of these, a 42 inch something, and it still works 4 years later. see, i'm 35 years old, and this sort of knowledge about TV's is powerful currency for a 35 year old. you're welcome JEB! maybe later, a clown can come suck your dick?
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jebreject
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 10, 2011, 02:44:55 AM »

You're the clown, right?

Anyway, thanks everyone! I'll keep you updated as to whether this tv is a total piece of crap or not.
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:08:43 AM »

Man, you guys must have had some bad experiences with craigslist, huh?
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:13:03 AM »

You can get a new toshiba in your price range if you send that thing baxk.

http://dealnews.com/m/deal.html/478927.html
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:29:19 AM »

Man, you guys must have had some bad experiences with craigslist, huh?

I've sold a lot of shitty shit on there. Last year I sold the speakers/subwoofer that came with my 2002 Dell desktop to some dumbass for like $40.  Sold my ikea desk that I shittily repainted myself. Also bought some second hand ikea that was in good condition. Tried to sell my wii but nobody wanted it. When I left missoula I sold a 15 y/o tempurpedic mattress (filthy) and an insane bed frame i built myself.

If you're in the market for something at ikea check craigslist first. I wouldn't buy electronics from there unless I picked it up from their house so I knew who to come back and beat the fuck out.
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:34:41 AM »

I've bought, sold and traded a crazy amount of stuff on craigslist, including furniture, electronics, video games, brewing supplies, books, subleases, bikes, etc., etc. I've never been screwed nor knowingly have I screwed anyone.
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jebreject
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:46:19 AM »

You can get a new toshiba in your price range if you send that thing baxk.

http://dealnews.com/m/deal.html/478927.html


I'm really not too worried about it. I think the Silo is going to be fine. I guess I wish I'd seen this, but still, this is almost a hundred bucks more, and Toshiba isn't exactly top of the line either.

Thanks for pointing me toward that site, though! There are indeed some pretty sweet deals.
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:47:32 AM »

Yeah, dealnews is pretty good.
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 10, 2011, 10:50:55 AM »

For me the electronics thing is more about buying used electronics than it being craigslist. I'd buy something refurbished with a warranty before I bought a tv off of craigslist.

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Dealnews is great. They basically just aggregate good prices for things and deals. They don't make any judgment about the quality of say one tv over the other, they just say "if you want a 42 inch tv, here are the cheapest places to get a toshiba or a samsung or whatever "

They also take a stab at some data analysis, like which month is the best for tv prices, or laptop prices etc.
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