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Antero
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« Reply #200 on: Feb 01, 2012, 08:38:45 PM »

Should I listen to this Gucci Mane V-Nasty album or are we all cool pretending it never happened?
What Gucci Mane and V-Nasty album?  I don't think something like that ever happened, now did it?
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« Reply #201 on: Feb 01, 2012, 09:43:12 PM »

Jay Electronica dropped a couple good songs, and chances are he'll never do anything interesting ever again.
this is like saying jackson pollock painted a couple good paintings.
#grossunderstatement
yes, this is a legitimate comparison, considering pollock never did anything interesting after about a three year period of fucking brilliance.
see jay elec 2007-2010.
that shit is instant classic material, no exaggeration.
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« Reply #202 on: Feb 01, 2012, 10:03:47 PM »

Does he really have that much classic material, though?  I can only think of a couple of good songs and a lot of stuff I played once, enjoyed, and never came back to.
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« Reply #203 on: Feb 01, 2012, 10:32:49 PM »

maybe not, but neither does pollock.  Heart
i think the hip hop community has become habituated to artists that flood the market, and that's not what jay does, so it's a bit difficult to stay tuned in. i remember in a discussion maybe a year or two ago, you said that you thought jay-z was the last of the old guard. i would add (or argue?) that jay elec participates in that heritage as much or more than jay-z does, and given his age, is as just as deserving of inclusion in that group. he has the long vision. he seems to be building a long career, more along the lines of 88-93. this is a much bigger deal that a lot of the glib "true school" shit post-rawkus, because it's much more sincere. of course, feeling this way about his work requires a certain amount faith in him as an artist, but i think that sort of faith is something that doesn't really exist in hip hop so much anymore, as evidenced by artists who must constantly reassert themselves for their fans. it's like john vs thomas. i'm thinking of lil b's almost literal cult status here, something that i don't think could exist without b's release schedule. there's a difference in means though maybe not in ends. both means are equally valid, as long as we're getting good music.
ANYWAY, i know that he has at LEAST an album of classic material, an album that i wouldn't skip a track. he might have two. i'm surfing youtube right now listening to incredible tracks of his that i've never heard even of, let alone listened to. granted, i was never that into him when he first dropped, but i always stuck around when i heard buzz around a new release. it's also important to remember that, early on, he produced his own shit. it's especially important to remember because a lot of those early productions were, within hip hop, almost without precedent, or at the very least digging through a lot of marginal 90s styles of beat making that, to this day, don't get enough shine.
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« Reply #204 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:17:47 PM »

oh shit.
also: there's a new young l tape, praktica, and the soulja/young l tape came out recently. has anyone heard either of these?
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« Reply #205 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:19:54 PM »

production is on point
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« Reply #206 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:30:41 PM »

oh shit.
also: there's a new young l tape, praktica, and the soulja/young l tape came out recently. has anyone heard either of these?

Praktica is good, in the same vein as Domo-Kun, but it's short. I hadn't realized the soulja thing finally came out, I'll have to cop that. Also White Flame is fucking awesome. Best Lil B since at least Bitch Mob, probably.
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« Reply #207 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:34:32 PM »

Shai, I am going to listen to all my Jay Elec before I try to comment further.  At least, as soon as I finish White Flame.

Praktica is good.  His rapping is also more competent than on previous tapes.  Haven't heard his tape with Soulja Boy yet.

White Flame is kind of amazing thus far.
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« Reply #208 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:37:05 PM »

lil b rhyming over "voyage to atlantis" forever
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« Reply #209 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:39:59 PM »

I like how "Bitch of the City" is incredibly menacing, yet is still punctuated by shouts of "WAYNE BRADY!"
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« Reply #210 on: Feb 01, 2012, 11:49:20 PM »

Lil B does not like ASAP Rocky very much.
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« Reply #211 on: Feb 02, 2012, 12:51:44 PM »

dang i really love white flame
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« Reply #212 on: Feb 02, 2012, 02:05:31 PM »

Crap I need to get on that.
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« Reply #213 on: Feb 02, 2012, 03:46:17 PM »

so, there is like this british battle rap thing called 'don't flop' and it's mostly unintentionally hilarious. however, this is a video of a mouthy youth getting 'murked' by his ENGLISH TEACHER.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gristo/class-dismissed-58t4
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« Reply #214 on: Feb 02, 2012, 07:22:12 PM »

Today is Candlemas, right? Wonder if the blessing of the candles (i.e., flames) has anything to do with White Flame.
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« Reply #215 on: Feb 02, 2012, 07:24:52 PM »

You should probably tweet that at Lil B.
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« Reply #216 on: Feb 02, 2012, 07:32:50 PM »

I don't tweet. I'm too distwactable.
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« Reply #217 on: Feb 02, 2012, 11:27:44 PM »

Looking for a good way to spend 3.7 days?

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« Reply #218 on: Feb 03, 2012, 12:48:54 AM »

Is that some C&S Lil B I see there?
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« Reply #219 on: Feb 03, 2012, 10:19:20 AM »

oh shiiiiiiiit. blu's no york is blowing me away.
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« Reply #220 on: Feb 03, 2012, 01:53:48 PM »

this is a video of a mouthy youth getting 'murked' by his ENGLISH TEACHER.

You know the teacher thing is a joke and not a fact, right?

oh shiiiiiiiit. blu's no york is blowing me away.

I like this :-)
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« Reply #221 on: Feb 03, 2012, 02:30:14 PM »

this is a video of a mouthy youth getting 'murked' by his ENGLISH TEACHER.

You know the teacher thing is a joke and not a fact, right?
No no dude kid's English teacher totally showed up to battle him, you clearly have never been to a cypher it happens all the time.  Back in LA in the 90s every teacher in LAUSD was up in the Project Blowed cyphers, it got to the point where union leadership was decided by rap battles.  I certainly think if you can't spit a hard 16 you have no business teaching English.

Sorry, I'm being silly here.

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« Reply #222 on: Feb 03, 2012, 02:56:53 PM »

this is a video of a mouthy youth getting 'murked' by his ENGLISH TEACHER.

You know the teacher thing is a joke and not a fact, right?


WHAT
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« Reply #223 on: Feb 03, 2012, 03:01:38 PM »

The guy mentions that he WAS a teacher on his website. He wrote a poem about it and everything. Whether or not he actually taught that kid, I dunno.
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« Reply #224 on: Feb 03, 2012, 03:24:34 PM »

I taught hard, and my exams had you squirming in your seat
but now what you hear is not a test - I'm rapping to the beat
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