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Greg Nog
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« Reply #250 on: Jun 07, 2012, 12:46:47 PM »

As a man who often wears a kilt, I reserve most of my decal-based ire for Calvin pissing on things.
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dieblucasdie
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« Reply #251 on: Jun 07, 2012, 01:00:58 PM »

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/07/mark-levin-make-scott-walker-the-speaker-of-the-u-s-house/
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« Reply #252 on: Jun 07, 2012, 01:20:21 PM »

It's rare that I click a link and actually think, man, I hope that my work's filters block this site.

By the way, they don't.

 Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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dieblucasdie
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« Reply #253 on: Jun 07, 2012, 10:32:22 PM »

Y'all probalby shoulda nominated... well, I guess you did the best you could given the low cards in that hand
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« Reply #254 on: Jun 07, 2012, 11:01:11 PM »

But yeah, IIRC (maybe Babar can fact-check me!) at the time I felt like both Obama and Clinton were decent candidates, as such things go, and that I would've been fine with either of them, since they were so close on so many issues, but I preferred Obama because

A) I gave him props for being against the Iraq War when basically no one else in the Democratic party was, and I didn't quite buy Clinton's mea culpa.

B) I liked that his health care plan did not include an individual mandate,

C) I was worried that a Clinton Administration would just be full of her husband's old cronies, and hoped that Obama might bring in the next generation of progressive officials and staffers, who at least hadn't been compromised pompous opportunistic fucks yet.

And then... he enlisted all the same Clinton-era jackasses anyway (I shoulda realized that this, at least, was inevitable), adopted the individual mandate after about 0.0000001 seconds of debate, and, you know, built/expanded an extrajudicial dystopian system for killing innocent children with robots.

I don't know if any of that would've been different/better under Clinton, but it certainly wouldn't have been worse!
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Greg Nog
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« Reply #255 on: Jun 07, 2012, 11:04:16 PM »

killing innocent children with robots.

Come now; if they're dead, they're obviously Militants.  Otherwise, why would they be dead?
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« Reply #256 on: Jun 07, 2012, 11:10:29 PM »

I hasten to add that both the right-wing noise machine and the actual GOP establishment would've absolutely gone after a President Clinton with the same gusto: On that alternate timeline, FK would be up ins telling us we should've nominated Obama (who would probably be vice-president and the subject of a whole host of even-more-insane conspiracy theories. Barack really thought ahead; nobody thinks Joe Biden is running a shadow government).
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« Reply #257 on: Jun 08, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »

I fuckin' WISH Joe Biden were running a Shadow Government
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« Reply #258 on: Jun 08, 2012, 10:53:43 AM »

Volleyball in the reflecting pool, kegs at the Jefferson Memorial, whole States of the Union cut and pasted from Kinnock speeches.
I'm in.
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dieblucasdie
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« Reply #259 on: Jun 12, 2012, 10:04:45 AM »

Oh my God, David Brooks is just the worst person:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opinion/brooks-the-follower-problem.html

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I donít know if America has a leadership problem; it certainly has a followership problem. Vast majorities of Americans donít trust their institutions. Thatís not mostly because our institutions perform much worse than they did in 1925 and 1955, when they were widely trusted. Itís mostly because more people are cynical and like to pretend that they are better than everything else around them. Vanity has more to do with rising distrust than anything else.

The peasants just don't know their place anymore

Also, nice trick using 1925 and 1955 as your examples instead of, you know, 1929 and 1968
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« Reply #260 on: Jun 12, 2012, 10:52:29 PM »

So you guys are all gonna sit at home on election day or is Gary Johnson your man?

Edit: Just kidding do whatever you want!
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« Reply #261 on: Jun 13, 2012, 12:42:53 AM »

I'ma be a broken record on this as I express my displeasure with the Obama administration throughout this election, but I would vote for Obama, no question, if I lived in a state that mattered. As things stand, I recognize that my vote is entirely symbolic, and will treat it as such by doing one of the following:

1) Writing in "Brandon 'Lil B The BasedGod' McCartney."

2) Voting for Obama entirely so I can post the inevitable forthcoming Young Jeezy video on FB in celebration, and because I recognize that a time may come where I will want to be able to tell my grandchildren: "Yeah, I voted for the black dude. Twice." without having to explain to them everything that's fucked up about the world.

Does anyone here even live in a state that matters? Maybe 'cocks, but FLA's going to be less important than the Midwest/Rust Belt this time around. Not jeb, because while it's not impossible that Romney will win WI, if he does, he'll already have run away with OH, MI, CO, FLA, VA. I think even PA would go red before WI. Same with Thermo: Obama could win NC, but if he does it'll be a close along-for-ride state. In a true Bush/Gore or Bush/Kerry scenario: I guess if pollo votes absentee in OH, it might matter under the closest of circumstances?

I will have zero guilt if Romney wins. A plague on both their houses, etc.
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« Reply #262 on: Jun 13, 2012, 02:05:35 AM »

I will have hella guilt if Romney wins regardless of circumstances, because in his malleability he will totally enable the most awful people possible.

ugh

but yeah I'm in Cali and Lil B sounds like an appealing option.
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« Reply #263 on: Jun 13, 2012, 05:36:38 AM »

I'ma be a broken record on this as I express my displeasure with the Obama administration throughout this election, but I would vote for Obama, no question, if I lived in a state that mattered. As things stand, I recognize that my vote is entirely symbolic, and will treat it as such by doing one of the following:

1) Writing in "Brandon 'Lil B The BasedGod' McCartney."

2) Voting for Obama entirely so I can post the inevitable forthcoming Young Jeezy video on FB in celebration, and because I recognize that a time may come where I will want to be able to tell my grandchildren: "Yeah, I voted for the black dude. Twice." without having to explain to them everything that's fucked up about the world.

Does anyone here even live in a state that matters? Maybe 'cocks, but FLA's going to be less important than the Midwest/Rust Belt this time around. Not jeb, because while it's not impossible that Romney will win WI, if he does, he'll already have run away with OH, MI, CO, FLA, VA. I think even PA would go red before WI. Same with Thermo: Obama could win NC, but if he does it'll be a close along-for-ride state. In a true Bush/Gore or Bush/Kerry scenario: I guess if pollo votes absentee in OH, it might matter under the closest of circumstances?

I will have zero guilt if Romney wins. A plague on both their houses, etc.

This, minus all the stuff from rap songs I don't know about
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« Reply #264 on: Jun 13, 2012, 07:54:43 AM »

Really for me the last straw was the NY Times piece on the drone program. Every time I think about defending the administration on the basis of the good work done w/r/t PPACA, the stimulus, DADT, the repeal of the torture policies, the Pell grant expansion, etc., I'm struck with an image of him poring over pictures and prťcised biographies of "terror suspects" and personally authorizing drone strikes in civilian areas, giving the go ahead to kill American citizens abroad, and asking Holder et al for legal justifications that will ensure these kinds of practices continue apace into the next administration.

Also lol @ Dodd-Frank & May's job numbers. Again, I can count to 60! But if the strongest argument in favor of your administration in the face of continued economic blight is "O those obstructionist Republicans..." That just doesn't carry a lot of water with people who are hurting. And there are a lot of people hurting.  And yes there's a very sensible case to be made that those people will be hurting *more* under a Romney administration, but that narrative is 1) more nuanced than your average voter is willing to hear and 2) incapable of inspiring a groundswell of grassroots support. I really think it's only going to take one or two more months of down economic numbers to break the tie in the general poll numbers in Romney's favor. And, short of another big stimulus or massive shovel-ready public works project (pretty much impossible at this point), I don't see how Obama claws his way back up on "It's not my fault, the Republicans, etc."
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dieblucasdie
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« Reply #265 on: Jun 13, 2012, 09:47:47 AM »

I still feel like Obama won't have much trouble as the race wears on. At this point the race is entirely a referendum on him, and it's more or less a tie, with a slight edge to him. If you're a likely voter who hasn't abandoned Obama by this point, I don't think there's anything about Mitt Romney that's going to make you do so. I think his support can only erode as the full public is actually exposed to him, and as people who are displeased with Obama also become displeased with the alternative.

The scenario under which he wins would most likely be the one where he manages to keep the focus on Obama's record (continued bad economic news would certainly help him do this), keeps the race as tight as it is now right up until election day, and relies on voter suppression tactics in key states to tilt things in his favor. But I don't see how he could make a big jump in the polls that he could sustain.

edit: Or, you know, if Romney is able to outspend Obama 2-to-1 or 3-or-1, then he'll just win, no matter what the economy does. But I have to imagine the big gap in last month's fundraising will be closed.
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« Reply #266 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:04:17 AM »

Yeah but--Super PACs. Campaign fundraising doesn't matter nearly so much any longer. And in that regard, the GOP have the Dems by a wide margin.

Also I wouldn't expect a big jump in the polls for Romney either. I'd expect a steady withering for Obama if things continue as they have been re: the economic numbers.
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« Reply #267 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:06:27 AM »

I mean nothing is going to be as effective in suppressing the Democratic vote as another jobs report in which we only add 40K new jobs. It just makes the administration look totally ineffectual.
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« Reply #268 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:07:57 AM »

I mean nothing is going to be as effective in suppressing the Democratic vote as another jobs report in which we only add 40K new jobs. It just makes the administration look totally ineffectual.

9000 more jobs than Bush created in any month, on average.
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« Reply #269 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:13:54 AM »

That's liable to fire up the base
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« Reply #270 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:26:12 AM »

That's liable to fire up the base

I think you're misidentifying who the base of the Democratic party is.
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« Reply #271 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:28:16 AM »



Does anyone here even live in a state that matters? Maybe 'cocks, but FLA's going to be less important than the Midwest/Rust Belt this time around. Not jeb, because while it's not impossible that Romney will win WI, if he does, he'll already have run away with OH, MI, CO, FLA, VA. I think even PA would go red before WI. Same with Thermo: Obama could win NC, but if he does it'll be a close along-for-ride state. In a true Bush/Gore or Bush/Kerry scenario: I guess if pollo votes absentee in OH, it might matter under the closest of circumstances?


the news is certainly convinced that WI is a red state now, post-recall  



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« Reply #272 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:30:22 AM »

That's liable to fire up the base

I think you're misidentifying who the base of the Democratic party is.

They don't care about job growth or crushing unemployment?
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« Reply #273 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:45:38 AM »



Does anyone here even live in a state that matters? Maybe 'cocks, but FLA's going to be less important than the Midwest/Rust Belt this time around. Not jeb, because while it's not impossible that Romney will win WI, if he does, he'll already have run away with OH, MI, CO, FLA, VA. I think even PA would go red before WI. Same with Thermo: Obama could win NC, but if he does it'll be a close along-for-ride state. In a true Bush/Gore or Bush/Kerry scenario: I guess if pollo votes absentee in OH, it might matter under the closest of circumstances?


the news is certainly convinced that WI is a red state now, post-recall  





16% of voters for Walker were Obama supporters who voted for Walker because they believed that recalls shouldn't be used for political pursuits but rather for criminal charges (I thought). Also, isn't Barret extremely unpopular?

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« Reply #274 on: Jun 13, 2012, 10:49:00 AM »

That's liable to fire up the base

I think you're misidentifying who the base of the Democratic party is.

They don't care about job growth or crushing unemployment?

Not in a way that they'd be "fired up" over it. The base, to my mind, is African Americans, Latinos, Women, Gays, and Labor.
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