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jebreject
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« on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:14:08 PM »

Speaking of Godard, I watched Band of Outsiders, and it leads me to believe that you haters are fucking crazy. This is only the second Godard film I've seen, the other being A Woman is a Woman, which was also great. But guys, seriously. Band of Outsiders was fucking great. Completely. It boggles my mind to think that people could hate this, honestly. People I like and respect no less! What I'm trying to say is we can't be friends anymore.

Last night was Big Sleep, which, despite making an already convoluted plot even more muddled, and changing the ending in a pretty significant way, really brought the characters and story to life. It's funny, when I read the book, I enjoyed it, greatly, but the whole thing felt utterly absurd to me. This guy basically witnesses two people get killed, then kills a couple of people himself, and NOTHING HAPPENS TO HIM AT ALL? Wtf, right? But the film really made it all seem pretty reasonable, much more realistic than, say, The Maltese Falcon. I didn't really understand how the movie could make any sense to anyone without explaining that Geiger was a pornographer, and that he and Carol Lundgren were lovers, and, especially, without the scene in the DA's office where they were talking about Regan. I also really missed the scene with Marlowe and Carmen at the abandoned oil field, and in general I thought the film would have benefited from more Carmen; Martha Vickers stole the scene every time. I'm also not sure why Vivian and Regan weren't married in the film version. But all in all, this was a GREAT film. The lighting was astounding (BEST SHADOWS EVER), the acting superb.
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jebreject
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:15:52 PM »

Does anyone know if the 1978 adaptation is at all worth watching?
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martin_van_buren
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:19:58 PM »

I hear it is, though I haven't seen it myself. That's the Altman one, right?
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Greg Nog
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:25:06 PM »

Man oh man I am excited about Chick Braveheart.  I gotta see that at some point this week.
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edison
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:29:10 PM »

I am in a spelling-police kinda mood, so I'll righteously point out that it's Godard with only one D.
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das kranke Tier
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:39:04 PM »

Man oh man I am excited about Chick Braveheart.  I gotta see that at some point this week.

Did you see Chris' post regarding such in the old thread, Greg?
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jebreject
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:45:23 PM »

I am in a spelling-police kinda mood, so I'll righteously point out that it's Godard with only one D.

I think ppl in the old thread were spelling in the wrong way, then? I don't know. Anyway, I fixed it. And thank you for letting me know.

I FOR ONE APPRECIATE THE SPELLING POLICE
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coldforge
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:53:24 PM »

The Altman/Gould Big Sleep is awesome.
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ellaguru
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:57:47 PM »

The Big Sleep (the old one, haven't seen the remake, although I think the Altman/Gould goodness outweighs the remake fear in this case) rules. Of course, so does The Maltese Falcon (whose ridiculousness adds to its charm).
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jebreject
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:58:42 PM »

I'll put it in my queue. I hear it's a lot more faithful to the book, though I don't see how anything possibly could beat Bogey/Bacall.
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jebreject
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:59:17 PM »

Of course, so does The Maltese Falcon (whose ridiculousness adds to its charm).

I didn't mean to imply that The Maltese Falcon didn't rule! Don't get me wrong.
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edison
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:11:03 PM »

I am in a spelling-police kinda mood, so I'll righteously point out that it's Godard with only one D.

I think ppl in the old thread were spelling in the wrong way, then?

NO. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE

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Greg Nog
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:22:55 PM »

Man oh man I am excited about Chick Braveheart.  I gotta see that at some point this week.

Did you see Chris' post regarding such in the old thread, Greg?

I did!  But really, no one could say anything that would make me anything other than insanely effusive about this movie.  girl could be all, "This movie gave me leprosy," and I'd be all ready to join a colony.
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hannah
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:36:29 PM »

altman made long goodbye not big sleep remake
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auto-da-fey
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:36:38 PM »

The Altman/Gould Big Sleep is awesome.

Or would be, if it existed. Altman/Gould's 1973 Long Goodbye certainly suggests as much. On the other hand, the 1978 Big Sleep remake directed by Michael Winner--he of the many Bronson movies--largely lives up to its title, despite the presence of Robert Mitchum (whose 1975 Farewell, My Lovely , since we're on the topic, is much better).
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:37:12 PM »

i saw hannah's more concise post, but fuck an x-post
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hannah
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:39:26 PM »

i think viggo mortensen should play mitchum in a biopic, but somehow a good biopic
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auto-da-fey
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:47:28 PM »

I watched Cruising a second time because Gaby wanted to see it. Also a third time if you count the commentary track. I'm on such a Friedkin kick that I have decided to see the rest of his 90s movies, suckage be damned. Fortunately I won't need to see Blue Chips or Jade because I saw them both in the theater.
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 16, 2007, 02:52:16 PM »

Ha, and I saw The Guardian in the theater, too! In 1990! That puts me in elementary school at the time, and I can't quite remember the circumstances--did I talk my parents into taking me? I vividly remember seeing it, but I'm not sure how it happened. Maybe that was the year my parents turned cool and went from not letting me watch Gremlins to signing off an a video-store card that let me check out R-rated stuff on my own. By 1992, when the girl at the ticket counter wouldn't sell me a ticket for Basic Instinct, my dad actually came up and demanded she let me in (though he wasn't a dick about it; it was kind of one of his shining moments, really).
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coldforge
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 16, 2007, 03:02:25 PM »

oh, whoops guys. i really wasn't paying attention. well, the altman film is awesome. never saw the '78 one.
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Andrew_TSKS
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 16, 2007, 05:23:22 PM »

Ha, and I saw The Guardian in the theater, too! In 1990! That puts me in elementary school at the time, and I can't quite remember the circumstances--did I talk my parents into taking me? I vividly remember seeing it, but I'm not sure how it happened. Maybe that was the year my parents turned cool and went from not letting me watch Gremlins to signing off an a video-store card that let me check out R-rated stuff on my own. By 1992, when the girl at the ticket counter wouldn't sell me a ticket for Basic Instinct, my dad actually came up and demanded she let me in (though he wasn't a dick about it; it was kind of one of his shining moments, really).

wait a second, how old are you? i've been assuming you were maybe 3 years younger than me at the most, but this post makes me think otherwise.
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auto-da-fey
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« Reply #21 on: Oct 16, 2007, 07:40:03 PM »

No, you're right--I'm rockin' the 29age. Did I fuck up my maths? I think 1990 was sixth grade. Seventh in the fall, I've given it a moment now and I'm pretty damn sure.
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Andrew_TSKS
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« Reply #22 on: Oct 16, 2007, 07:57:23 PM »

weird, dude. i was in 10th grade in 1990.
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« Reply #23 on: Oct 16, 2007, 08:04:19 PM »

Yeah, now that you mention it again, my maths may have been off. seventh going into eighth then. Anyway, point was, one less Friedkin movie I have to track down if I'm gonna be OCD about it, which I probably am. I think that was the point. I don't know. Was there a point?
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coldforge
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« Reply #24 on: Oct 16, 2007, 08:27:12 PM »

stop saying 'maths'
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