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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #450 on: Feb 25, 2008, 04:40:53 PM »

Ohhhhhh, my bad.

That fucking sucks, hh, for real. I mean for you it does; really that's a great first step in democratizing (and hopefully eventually devaluing the elite status of) the Ivies. Although really does that mean they'll be admitting any more plebs, or just exploiting them less?
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« Reply #451 on: Feb 25, 2008, 05:26:07 PM »

Admitting more plebs would, of course, require going after candidates outside of private schools and large magnet high schools in Boston, New York City, D.C., Chicago, and Los Angeles, and assorted boarding schools, but the new financial aid policy does mean that a) now kids who wouldn't've applied before will now consider applying and b) they can keep on coming back, year after year. And Yale does, I believe, do full tuition for parents with incomes under 70K; Stanford, Dartmouth, Brown, and Harvard all do 60K. In any case, these changes have all taken place in like the last month. I just wish they'd happened in the spring of 2002. Or in the spring of 1998, when my brother was weighing financial aid packages. Or 300 years ago. Or seventy years ago, sans racial quotas, too. Etc.
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« Reply #452 on: Feb 26, 2008, 07:11:17 AM »

Still the fags, I assume?

Indeed. My one last vice, well that and narcissism.
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C of heartbreak
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« Reply #453 on: Feb 26, 2008, 09:11:43 AM »

girlfriend: Can you give me a tylenol?
me: Do we have any tylenol?
gf: yeah in the prescription bottle
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gf: whatever
me: what's in this other bottle?
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me, looking at bottle: 'oxycodone'  Shocked
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hannah
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« Reply #454 on: Feb 27, 2008, 12:46:06 AM »

Admitting more plebs would, of course, require going after candidates outside of private schools and large magnet high schools in Boston, New York City, D.C., Chicago, and Los Angeles, and assorted boarding schools, but the new financial aid policy does mean that a) now kids who wouldn't've applied before will now consider applying and b) they can keep on coming back, year after year. And Yale does, I believe, do full tuition for parents with incomes under 70K; Stanford, Dartmouth, Brown, and Harvard all do 60K. In any case, these changes have all taken place in like the last month. I just wish they'd happened in the spring of 2002. Or in the spring of 1998, when my brother was weighing financial aid packages. Or 300 years ago. Or seventy years ago, sans racial quotas, too. Etc.

That said, "perfect proportionality will never happen (high-income parents tend to transmit their high IQs, pro-education culture, etc.)..."
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« Reply #455 on: Feb 27, 2008, 01:00:20 AM »

I was playing catch with a few friends today in my room. the ball fell under by bed and I was all "I WILL GET IT!!" and thrust my arm in there trying.

I got stuck. They didn't pay attention. I was really, very stuck. I was embarrassed and tried to wiggle my arm out. It hurt a LOT , but they thought I was kidding when I was saying so. An hour later?



it's the least tough story possible behind such a good looking bruise.
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #456 on: Feb 27, 2008, 09:58:56 AM »

Admitting more plebs would, of course, require going after candidates outside of private schools and large magnet high schools in Boston, New York City, D.C., Chicago, and Los Angeles, and assorted boarding schools, but the new financial aid policy does mean that a) now kids who wouldn't've applied before will now consider applying and b) they can keep on coming back, year after year. And Yale does, I believe, do full tuition for parents with incomes under 70K; Stanford, Dartmouth, Brown, and Harvard all do 60K. In any case, these changes have all taken place in like the last month. I just wish they'd happened in the spring of 2002. Or in the spring of 1998, when my brother was weighing financial aid packages. Or 300 years ago. Or seventy years ago, sans racial quotas, too. Etc.

That said, "perfect proportionality will never happen (high-income parents tend to transmit their high IQs, pro-education culture, etc.)..."

I assure you I am vomiting in rage
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« Reply #457 on: Feb 27, 2008, 09:25:03 PM »

Someone should quote that back at NRO next time they make a "meritocracy"/by-their-bootstraps argument against Affirmative Action.
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« Reply #458 on: Feb 27, 2008, 10:07:27 PM »

This might be relevant:
While people coming from state schools make up only a little less than 50% of the students at Oxford and Cambridge, they receive two-thirds of first class honours degrees (the highest academic achievement at undergraduate level) awarded there.
Source.

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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #459 on: Feb 28, 2008, 09:10:22 AM »

ohhohoho, MAN, I wish LPTJ woulda been up yesterday afternoon. I was SPITTING fucking mad. I don't have time this morning to rehash everything, but here's the lowdown from an email I sent to a prof shortly thereafter:

"Also writing because I just witnessed firsthand what you described to me when we last met--what you were saying about a resurgence of bigoted, narrow-minded, imperialist reactionary kind of thinking on college campuses? I have a natural science course this quarter, and the professor... I dunno. I was mostly OK with it when he launched into a ten minute diatribe at the end of a class, railing against the Democrats and liberals who wouldn't allow us to carry guns in the classroom and thus were making our campuses and schools more dangerous (this a week after the latest school shooting in Illinois). It was the end of class, and I realized I could leave without missing anything pertinent to the lecture. But today, he started class by 1) Attempting to debunk the myth of global warming (and the guy is an environmental geographer [or something] so I took it with a grain of salt, him being more knowledgeable on the relevant science), which segued into 2) Attacks on "idiot liberals" who want to bankrupt the country and freeze the third world in a permanent state of poverty (as if capitalism weren't pretty good at that itself) and continued onto 3) A denunciation of dialectical materialism and class conflict in general, and then straight into 4) The observation that "the world is plagued by ethnic warfare right now" and that "They" hate our culture and are worse than "Commies" because Commies only wanted our money, while They want us dead, decapitated, and our culture in ruins, amended this with 5) That the liberals in this country advance Their agenda while being too ignorant to realize it and then provided an example of Their invasion 6) In western Europe, where They are already "outbreeding the native Europeans" by a factor of 2:1, at which point he asked the class if we knew who "They" were, and a helpful student raised his hand and said loudly "The Arabs" to which my professor replied 7) "That's RIGHT! The Islamists! [sic] They hate our way of life, and..." at which point twenty minutes of class time had passed in a manner befitting like a particularly virulent edition of the Glenn Beck program, and I decided that I shouldn't have to listen to any more of this kind of garbage, seeing as how I'd just walked thirty minutes in the freezing wind to come to a class I'm not altogether fond of anyway, and when I walked out the door he was still going strong. I'm seriously considering writing some kind of letter to either Student Affairs or the Post or somewhere, cuz like while I respect this guy's right to spout this kind of nonsense in a public venue, I don't think I should have to sit and listen to twenty minutes of it as punishment for getting up and coming to class today. I mean really: this guy has a captive audience and knows it, and he spends nearly half the allotted class time rehashing old Ann Coulter talking points and as much as calling me an idiot to my face because I'm a socialist and a liberal? And in a class which, when you come down to it, should be as apolitical and objective a facts-based science course as possible, if only for the benefit of the non-science majors who are struggling anyway?
Once again, sorry for the long, long email, but I'm sort of furious right now and there's no one nearby to listen to me vent. "
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coldforge
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« Reply #460 on: Feb 28, 2008, 10:07:59 AM »

It's been a little while since I was in academia, but I can't imagine a college in the country with a rulebook that would smile on a 20 minute political rant in a science course. Am I wrong?
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« Reply #461 on: Feb 28, 2008, 10:19:26 AM »

Yay, tenure!
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RoyBiggins
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« Reply #462 on: Feb 28, 2008, 11:10:25 AM »

Did that school shooting make much national noise, outside of the big coverage on the day of?

I'm just kind of curious, 'cause...I don't know. It's ubiquitous here, still. Plus that was my school, my town. Bleh.
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« Reply #463 on: Feb 28, 2008, 11:16:16 AM »

It's been a little while since I was in academia, but I can't imagine a college in the country with a rulebook that would smile on a 20 minute political rant in a science course. Am I wrong?

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. You should alert the powers that be, Pollo. This guy's wasting your time and money with that.
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« Reply #464 on: Feb 28, 2008, 11:45:39 AM »

I also really, really doubt that you're the only one made uncomfortable by it, Miles. Dude is being an out-and-out bigot and that ain't kosher
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DCDave
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« Reply #465 on: Feb 28, 2008, 11:47:55 AM »

It's been a little while since I was in academia, but I can't imagine a college in the country with a rulebook that would smile on a 20 minute political rant in a science course. Am I wrong?

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. You should alert the powers that be, Pollo. This guy's wasting your time and money with that.

The last time something like this happened in one of my classes I withdrew from the class, wrote a letter to the dean, and got my money refunded. 
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #466 on: Feb 28, 2008, 11:51:49 AM »

I really want to write a letter to someone in administration, but I'm sort of reluctant to do so because I'm doing so badly in that class (like a C) and I'm afraid that it'll be perceived as me getting my nose out of joint simply because I don't like the material and I'd fairing poorly in the class.

But yeah, I might do, anyway, just cuz. I wrote a letter to the editor about it, and I've yet to see if it'll get published or not.

Dave could you maybe elaborate on your experience? I'm curious as to what I might expect in terms of a response from admin.
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ellaguru
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« Reply #467 on: Feb 28, 2008, 01:11:09 PM »

Man, suddenly every third email I get is advertising penis extensions.

I mean, how could they have found out?
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« Reply #468 on: Feb 28, 2008, 01:15:14 PM »

yeah my spam box has been filled with those lately too.  At least they're clever ones:

"For valentines day, give her the package she really wants"
or
"Ram her like never before with your new, enlarged battering ram." (not as clever but hilarious)
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jebreject
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« Reply #469 on: Feb 28, 2008, 01:16:12 PM »

Man, suddenly every third email I get is advertising penis extensions.

I mean, how could they have found out?

Well, I mean, the video IS all over the internet, dude.
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Wally
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« Reply #470 on: Feb 28, 2008, 01:17:02 PM »

Man, suddenly every third email I get is advertising penis extensions.

I mean, how could they have found out?

Well, I mean, the video IS all over the internet, dude.

My bad. I could have sworn edison said it was okay.
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« Reply #471 on: Feb 28, 2008, 03:08:09 PM »

Man, suddenly every third email I get is advertising penis extensions.

I mean, how could they have found out?

Well, I mean, the video IS all over the internet, dude.

My bad. I could have sworn edison said it was okay.

?
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ellaguru
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« Reply #472 on: Feb 28, 2008, 03:36:37 PM »

Man, suddenly every third email I get is advertising penis extensions.

I mean, how could they have found out?

Well, I mean, the video IS all over the internet, dude.

My bad. I could have sworn edison said it was okay.

?

Oh, come on, edison, you try to get people to post pictures and movies of my penis all the time. I should never have let you film me in the first place.

Don't even try to pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

 Smile
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edison
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« Reply #473 on: Feb 28, 2008, 03:39:55 PM »

I..erm... well, huh..

I'm sorry  Embarassed

(What?)
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elpollodiablo
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« Reply #474 on: Feb 28, 2008, 03:51:12 PM »

Well instead of using this valuable two hours of free time to study for my German exam this afternoon, I spent it reading old LPTJ threads. THANKS A BUNCH JOHN
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